Jared/Jon 5 - Talking about Praise, and praising oneself and what a Good Christian is



Jon Shares another Verse

I Signed up to all the things on that site that Any sent round.

Heres one message I got from the Daily WIsdom thingie, I really like that service
thing.

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\ / DAILY WISDOM from HEARTLIGHT -- http://www.heartlight.org/
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When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider:
God has made the one as well as the other. Therefore, a man
cannot discover anything about his future.


And a Reply, from Jared

So true. When times are good man tends to praise himself though he has
as much control over circumstances which led to the good times as I do
over the outcome of a rugby match. Yet when times are bad man tends to
blame it on others (if he is a Christian) or to blame God but if he
praises himself when times are good because he made all the right
choices should he not also blame himself when times are bad. Man also
tends to also turn to God during the rough patches but forget him when
times are good for what need of God does he have when they are such. But
man needs God all the time for without him nothing is possible but with
him nothing is impossible.
God bless,
Jared May-trix


And Jon's Reply

Also, when "Man" is in a good spot, when hes a "Good" christian, he thanks
God for getting him to where he is... Isn't that also Right??
Also, in a rough patch, arn't we more likly to ask for help, insted of
thanking him for everything, but still Talk to him, and not blame him but
ask if he can help us get out of it.
A bad patch is still part of His plan is it not??

Anyways, thanks for the thoughts..

Jon


Jared's thoughts on that

Yes, but the problem is that there are very few truely good Christians,
I would be speaking through my arse if I said I am one of them. Most
Christians whether they realise it or not are more likely to praise
themselves over God I know that I generally do until I think 'Whoa God
did this and gave me that I should thank him.' The Christian still comes
from this world and it is so easy to stay in the ways of the world
keeping habits which you ignore over the larger, but is it not said
(somewhere) that its not only the large sins that God loathes but also
the 100's of small ones which most people forget or think God won't care
about that its so small. But God does care he said be perfect as I am
perfect therefore if we forget the small sins then we may as well forget
the large ones as well.
It is so easy also to blame God for he is not under your control unlike
the circumstances that led to the bad patch. It takes time generally for
us to turn to God and say I can't do this by myself. Man is a prideful
creature we have had centuries of practise at it and it takes a long
time to break any habit and one of the most major habits we have learnt
is to rely on ourselves rather than on God and we want to fix things by
ourselves rather than admit we can't hack it.
I would hesitate to say a bad patch is part of his plan for we must
remember that at this moment this world has two masters who both have
power in it. It may not be part of His plan but He is so much more
powerful than the devil that anything done by him can be turned for His
purposes.
God bless,
Jared May-trix


Jon Adds More

Ahhh fair enough.

I'm going to be cocky right now, and claim that for at least the last week I
have been as much of a "Ture Christian" as possible. I have brought
basically Everything to him, and I have felt him in me, and even though this
has been my busyist Week EVER, It feels like the easyist Stress free week
ever (Even done tones of tests that I really thought I would fail, but after
them felt confordent that passed etc..).

Also regarding the Study I'm doing at school, a few nights ago I felt him
telling me to change our topic (As we havn't really gotten into it yet) and
so we have, and it was great!!

Sure I'm not claiming to be perfact, but I'm trying to be the best I can be
kinda thing.

Last week was also Hectic, but Insted of saying why have you done this to
me, I said please help me with this. A good christian Can't be perfact, but
they can be a good christian

Cheers

Jon

And he (Yet again) adds a little more to this

If you want to answer, Do you consider yourself a "Good" Christian at the
Moment??

Cause its a very powerful question really.

You know that verse about cutting off your leg if it causes you to
stumble... I love that verse.

Cheers Again
Jimmyiny Cricket


And Jareds reply to that one

By your definition I believe I am, I try hard not to let habits get the
better of me and to try to break them when I know that they are wrong,
but I know also that I will trip up but just so long as I admit it to
God (which it sometimes is as hard to do as admit to another person) I
know that God will forgive and forget and I can continue to grow in him
and learn from experience.
My definition of a good Christian is an impossible standard but it
should be one that we try for with all our might, for God does not mind
that we do not reach the destination for he knows that it is impossible
to achieve but he loves us because we do try to achieve it for him. Its
not whether we win or lose but the fact that we tried for it in the
first place.
God bless,
Jared






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